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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 6:25:36 GMT 7
I can't remember much about Thai visas, only that I felt unwelcome.
Let's compare regulations: Everyone gets a renewable 180-day multi entry visa upon arrival (15usd). Overstay is a 2.50usd per day fine. It maxes out at 5000 Pesos .. 19:1usd.
With the visitor's visa (they don't call them tourist visas anymore) you have "all" rights a national has apart from voting. You may even sue a national.
Only an official from the INM (la migra) can ask you to present your Passport and/or Visa.
You may not open a bank account until you have either a Resident's Visa, a gig, or a Mexican wife/husband. The working visa is good for a year and is automatically renewed as you present yourself to immigration and answer the questions: Has your address changed? Has your employer changed? Has your marital status changed?
You don't need a visa until you reach 50 miles North or South of the border.
Driver's license, no problemo. Auto insurance as well.
I feel welcome.
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Post by curtaintwitcher on Oct 17, 2016 6:28:15 GMT 7
...silly to compare the Thai apple with the Mexican orange: completely different histories, cultures...and, of course, locations...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 6:34:39 GMT 7
The welcoming is the theme. In Panama you can get a Resident Visa with prof of a 500$ a month income. What's Thailand, 40,000$ locked into a bank account for five years?
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Post by curtaintwitcher on Oct 17, 2016 6:59:10 GMT 7
...Panama is a tired dump locked in the shadow of the giant Gringo...income from US retirees is needed just to keep the national budget afloat...as for that welcoming feeling: money is probably greeted with open arms anywhere in the world...I extend my non-imm visa yearly with no cash locked into a local account, merely a notarized letter from the embassy supporting whatever income I declare: immi has never asked to see bank deposits (in my case)...I am not defending the swamp's bueaucracy, merely suggesting that swampified farangs tend to complain when pheromone levels fade...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 7:18:34 GMT 7
Yes, we as Gringos can never escape the jacket they've put on us; drive a beat up old car, dress in rags, eat tacos on the street and the locals will just think it's a poor man facade, so we won't be asked for anything.
I'm not so sure, at the social level, I'm made to feel more welcome because I have the income of an army Sargent or a traffic cop. I doubt my friends would dump me if I somehow convinced them I am not, nor ever have been a richie. Of course if I had a traffic accident and owed the victim thousands of dollars the law would expect me to come up with the cash. Whereas a national would too, he/she might have friends in high places. They, the law, would assume I don't.
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Post by buddahas on Oct 17, 2016 7:59:36 GMT 7
Unwelcome because Thais think they live in the best country in the world. I mentioned to my wife yesterday that cars in Canada (and really... everywhere else) have to stop when pedestrians are crossing the street. She flat out called me a liar and mentioned she will investigate my claim with her friends in Canada on Facebook I then asked her why she thinks Thailand is the best country in the world and she goes on and on about all the "German" that come here. Why they want to come here she asks if it's not the best country? When I point out that it's for the bitches they can't get back home, it falls on deaf ears. I always say my wife has been very fair and generous to me, but that Thainess really comes shining through.
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Post by curtaintwitcher on Oct 17, 2016 8:18:19 GMT 7
..."but that Thainess really comes shining through"...
...locally educated then...
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Post by pathumseb on Oct 17, 2016 8:21:26 GMT 7
Easy here in Myanmar, just go on a paid for jolly to Bangkok to renew the visa. Certainly feel welcome here
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 8:38:02 GMT 7
Cool, I went to Thailand to mix with the folks, not to visit temples. If I don't feel welcome I'm outta there. In many cases the attitudes and opinions of the ruling class trickle down. That's a bad omen.
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Post by buddahas on Oct 17, 2016 9:08:38 GMT 7
..." but that Thainess really comes shining through"... ...locally educated then... no one is perfect
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 10:15:56 GMT 7
I'm siding with Kidefi. Guadalajara is sn outstanding retirement location, esp for a North American who can be home in a few hours.
A one bedroom condo at Colonias Americas on the edge of a top class entertainment area is $350 a month. Electricty laughably cheap - I just paid $10 for two months use.
Spanish is ten times easier to pick up than Thai. For those interested in the p2p market is starts at $10.00. There's no need to get involved in it - Badoo will bring you outstanding freebies.
Me? I love the genuine social interaction. Once the locals suss you ain't a snobbish up-yourself gringo they open up. And you don't have that sinking feeling that you are being long-firmed.
I've met one CM lady here married to an American. She adores it here, even more than California.
With the benign visa system mentioned by the OP, this place is a great bet for those struggling under tge drop in sterling. My lowball estimate for living here would be £600 a month. That's a standard British pension. Anyone with an income of £1000 a month would have a great life here. More than that and you'd be rolling in it.
How so? With the living expense so low, you can sit in my local top top class bar/cafe and drink a litrd of beer for £1.50. A bottle of whisky in the local bars is £22.00. Leave it behind the bar and finish it tomorrow just as you do in Thailand.
Street vendor hotdog £0.40, good breakfast buffet - £2.50. Same price for all you can eat Chinese buffet. You'd be stuffed on £5.00 a day. Do it cheaper if you eat at home.
No 90 day reports, no stressing on a daily basis and accepting Orwellian diktats. some of would be doing yourselves and your Thai partners a great favour by moving here for a year. I'll lay you short odds your Thai partner will not want to move back.
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Post by curtaintwitcher on Oct 17, 2016 10:19:49 GMT 7
...so, no challenges then: who wants to live in a place like that? It's the swamp for me and mine...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 10:32:34 GMT 7
Good one Mango. My rent is 1500mxn a month. What's that, about 80usd? My electricity is going up. It's at about 20 bucks for 2 months. Gasoline is expensive, super market shopping trying to eat like a Gringo is expensive.
T, Mexico isn't for you, Latin America isn't for you. North Carolina isn't for you. I'm glad you are at home in the swamp. You've been there a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 10:32:59 GMT 7
...so, no challenges then: who wants to live in a place like that? It's the swamp for me and mine... There are challenges here. Friendships are harder to develop than the faux crap that pollutes many farang ghettos. Medical care can be problematical. This place ain't a playground. It's full of good people appalled by what they see from the cartels. But they know and say it's a Mex problem. Unlike Thailand foreigners ain't targeted. Mexican's know how to fly below the radar, they're world class at it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 10:52:04 GMT 7
Good one Mango. My rent is 1500mxn a month. What's that, about 80usd? My electricity is going up. It's at about 20 bucks for 2 months. Gasoline is expensive, super market shopping trying to eat like a Gringo is expensive. T, Mexico isn't for you, Latin America isn't for you. North Carolina isn't for you. I'm glad you are at home in the swamp. You've been there a long time. I'd be more impressed if people quit going on the defensive and considered the genuine good-hearted advice you and I are giving. To any British state pension retiree, Guadalajara is a far better bet today than Thailand. And by a country mile.
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