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Post by rubl on Nov 16, 2019 21:22:25 GMT 7
Interesting one rgs, how many? I seem to remember no more than half a dozen. A magnanimous gesture, not intended for positive publicity I am sure, could come back to bite them on the bum when citizenship issues arise. Council house or are they buying privately? Those in the know tell its its the christain thing to do. Is the vatican in the EU? Does it have a hard or soft border, backstop issues? Can I as an EU citizen go and live there? Does in contribute to NATO? Vatican City is a socalled European microstate (the others are Monaco, Andorra, San Marino and Liechtenstein). These are not members of the E.U. VC is also not a ember of the European Court of Human Rights. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City"Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican City remain outside the Union, because the EU has not been designed with microstates in mind." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstates_and_the_European_UnionAs for NATO (with A for Atlantic) there are various countries which aren't a full member. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Major_NATO_affiliations_in_Europe.svg |
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Post by rgs2001uk on Nov 16, 2019 22:03:18 GMT 7
Cheers mate, sounds exactly what I am looking for, tell papa to get the spare room made up. Only problem, whats their tax laws? will i as an infidel be subjected to " a skin tax" |
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Post by AyG on Nov 17, 2019 5:54:41 GMT 7
"the Vatican City remain outside the [European] Union" And yet is fabulously wealthy, and runs perhaps the biggest, most profitable racket on the planet. Who needs the EU? Bring on Brexit! |
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Post by rott on Nov 17, 2019 10:31:41 GMT 7
Not part of NATO but occasionally you get media articles that it facilitates intelligence gathering for the USA.
Who knows.
Many countries including the UK have embassies there. Anybody know why? I will have the veracity and provenance manager on my back for this, but I understand that if one tries to report a missing passport there one is promptly redirected to Rome.
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Post by siampolee on Nov 17, 2019 11:01:25 GMT 7
All roads lead to Rome or so says the ancient quote
The same outcome can be reached by many methods or ideas. This phrase refers to the road system of the Roman Empire, in which Rome was positioned in the center, with every road attached to it.
In the hidden truth of modern day Europe or certainly the EU part of it, it should read.
All roads lead to Brussels. The same outcome can be reached by many methods or ideas. This phrase refers to the political dictate of the political road system of the Brussels based EU wannabe Empire, in which Brussels is positioned in the center, with every road attached to it.
Being as there are some fifty two countries comprising Europe the EU is not a completely European entity but a splinter group.
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Post by rubl on Nov 17, 2019 11:40:22 GMT 7
Not part of NATO but occasionally you get media articles that it facilitates intelligence gathering for the USA. Who knows. Many countries including the UK have embassies there. Anybody know why? I will have the veracity and provenance manager on my back for this, but I understand that if one tries to report a missing passport there one is promptly redirected to Rome. Actually with Vatican City (1000 people within 0.44 km2) being more of a Vatican Village or even a Vatican Hamlet, Embassies are in Rome. |
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Post by rubl on Nov 17, 2019 11:44:47 GMT 7
Interesting how some here have a hard-on for Vatican City apart from the tendency to go into hilarious E.U. bashing. It's like complaining that in the U.K. you can still find traces of Empire.
The topic is the papal visit to Thailand. The position of the Pope is one which can be explained by studying history. The idiocy here to try to position VC as a country of similar importance as the Netherlands or Britain seems weird.
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Post by rott on Nov 17, 2019 13:04:28 GMT 7
So are you saying that there is no longer a British Embassy and Ambassador to the Holy See.?
Dear me, I do hope I have misunderstoood. One would not wish the papa and his friends to be offended.
As for going off topic, well I have long felt this is an area the mods could devote more attention to. Probably too busy with square sausage and purchasing extra underwear for the cold weather.
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Post by rott on Nov 17, 2019 13:06:19 GMT 7
The idiocy is more the papa declaring himself King of toytown.
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Post by rubl on Nov 17, 2019 13:48:10 GMT 7
So are you saying that there is no longer a British Embassy and Ambassador to the Holy See.? Dear me, I do hope I have misunderstoood. One would not wish the papa and his friends to be offended. As for going off topic, well I have long felt this is an area the mods could devote more attention to. Probably too busy with square sausage and purchasing extra underwear for the cold weather. A misunderstanding. There are embassies to the Holy See but their location is in the city of Rome as there's no space for them in Vatican Hamlet. BTW regarding your lost passport "The British Embassy to the Holy See does not do consular work, or issue passports, travel documentation or visas. For any of these services, please refer to the British Embassy to Italy." www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-embassy-holy-seeAs for off or on topic I hope you won't hold it against me when I don't offer either cheek  |
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Post by AyG on Nov 17, 2019 14:10:46 GMT 7
"The British Embassy to the Holy See does not do consular work, or issue passports, travel documentation or visas. Not so different from the British Embassy in Bangkok, then. |
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Post by rott on Nov 17, 2019 18:20:34 GMT 7
To confirm what I said, if you lose your passport on Holy See land and report it to the embassy in the Holy See they will refer you to the embassy in Rome. The location of the embassy in the Holy See is given as Vatican City not Rome. So they made room for one anyway.
How many of the other 85 embassies are located there rather than Rome I do not know.
Why 86 countries need an embassy there is a topic for another thread.
As is the question of why the HS needs embassies in 115 countries. How much does all that cost? Do they publish audited accounts?
Possibly they are subsidised by the donations placed in souls in purgatory boxes.
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Post by rubl on Nov 17, 2019 19:25:43 GMT 7
To confirm what I said, if you lose your passport on Holy See land and report it to the embassy in the Holy See they will refer you to the embassy in Rome. The location of the embassy in the Holy See is given as Vatican City not Rome. So they made room for one anyway. How many of the other 85 embassies are located there rather than Rome I do not know. Why 86 countries need an embassy there is a topic for another thread. As is the question of why the HS needs embassies in 115 countries. How much does all that cost? Do they publish audited accounts? Possibly they are subsidised by the donations placed in souls in purgatory boxes. Although the gov.uk website gives location as "Holy See" the address shows: British Embassy Holy See Via XX Settembre 80/a 00187 Rome Italy www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-embassy-holy-see/office/british-embassyBTW it seems some countries have combined their Italian/VC embassies into one for costs reasons. Not sure how that works diplomatically. Can one person be accredited as ambassador to more than one country? As to why the HS has so many Embassies, well there are still 1.5 billion practising Catholics worldwide it seems, spread over many countries. BTW did you know the UK has one of the largest global networks of diplomatic missions? Probably in preparation to brexit and the new global reach the Foreign and Commonwealth Office has announced in 2018 that new High Commissions will open in Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Grenada, Lesotho, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Swaziland, Tonga and Vanuatu. Regarding the costs of Embassies I don't think there are any countries where such 'unimportant' details are made available to the general public. |
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Post by Mosha on Nov 18, 2019 6:41:27 GMT 7
Relative to their populations, northern England has taken over twice as many Syrian refugees as the South." Makes sense. Put people from shithole countries in shithole parts of the country. I'm not biting  . |
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Post by rott on Nov 18, 2019 12:33:02 GMT 7
To confirm what I said, if you lose your passport on Holy See land and report it to the embassy in the Holy See they will refer you to the embassy in Rome. The location of the embassy in the Holy See is given as Vatican City not Rome. So they made room for one anyway. How many of the other 85 embassies are located there rather than Rome I do not know. Why 86 countries need an embassy there is a topic for another thread. As is the question of why the HS needs embassies in 115 countries. How much does all that cost? Do they publish audited accounts? Possibly they are subsidised by the donations placed in souls in purgatory boxes. Although the gov.uk website gives location as "Holy See" the address shows: British Embassy Holy See Via XX Settembre 80/a 00187 Rome Italy www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-embassy-holy-see/office/british-embassyBTW it seems some countries have combined their Italian/VC embassies into one for costs reasons. Not sure how that works diplomatically. Can one person be accredited as ambassador to more than one country? As to why the HS has so many Embassies, well there are still 1.5 billion practising Catholics worldwide it seems, spread over many countries. BTW did you know the UK has one of the largest global networks of diplomatic missions? Probably in preparation to brexit and the new global reach the Foreign and Commonwealth Office has announced in 2018 that new High Commissions will open in Antigua and Barbuda, Bahamas, Grenada, Lesotho, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Samoa, Swaziland, Tonga and Vanuatu. Regarding the costs of Embassies I don't think there are any countries where such 'unimportant' details are made available to the general public. The British Embassy relocated from VC to Rome (a separate property within the Embassy complex) in 2006 much to the chagrin of the Holy See apparently. They objected to having to go to Italy when they needed contact with the UK, relations with the Italian govt not always being harmonious. The list I saw yesterday clearly stated VC as the location. Yours is not a satisfactory explanation as to why they need embassies anywhere. About a third of the passport holders are the Swiss Guard. You are inferring that they are there to represent all RCs not just that state. Odd. Normal countries possibly do not publish the costs of embassies etc but the One True Church Outside of Which There is No Salvation could lead by example. |
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